Is Garrett still in here? There’s Garrett. Not that doctrine needs research to back it up, but it is fascinating to see the difference that’s being made in people’s lives as they learn and internalize the doctrine of grace. They’re going to be referring to some research that’s been done by members of the church and by nonmembers of the church among LDS populations and among non-LDS populations that show that as people come to an understanding of grace, that it does make a difference in levels of depression, in levels of anxiety, in levels of perfectionism and scrupulosity, (that feeling that you continually have something to confess) and levels of shame, and so I think you’ll be fascinated to listen to some of the research that is backing up the doctrine. I also am excited for the presentation that Steve and Garrett are going to be giving after as they talk about the application of grace and the difference that that doctrine actually makes in people’s lives. I said, “How come you’ve grown up and I haven’t?” Ha, ha, ha. She says, “Gosh, I heard you speak when I was 14.” I love the comparison she was making and I’m honored to be able to be on a program with her. I got here right at the end of Sarah’s presentation, but she just promised me that when she gets that written up into a paper, I’m going to get a copy of it.
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